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    So what are you suggesting? That Porthios will agree to a Qualinesti with a goblin nation? When the Abyys freezes over!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kith Koby
    So what are you suggesting? That Porthios will agree to a Qualinesti with a goblin nation? When the Abyys freezes over!
    More like he is a bit of fodder for that storyline possiblity. Though the conclusion of Qualinesti fate had already been mostly pre-determined by now and it is just the story going through the events to it.
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    I'm suggesting that Porthios and his fighters will give the goblins plenty to do for the next two books.
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    Do you guys think Sa'ida is going to be the new goldmoon? I think shes probably going to play a big part in getting Qualinesti at least. Who is the god thats been helping? Do we know?
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    Default If it were a deity...

    I thought it was Zivilyn, Paladine, Sirrion, Majere, or Branchala, in that order of likeliness. The flavor just didn't match Branchala or Majere it seemed (perhaps closer for Majere). I only thought Sirrion when he spoke with Porthios on the way back to Qualinesti (in light of Porthios's ordeal by dragon fire). I ruled out Paladine since the character (old human priest) was divinely punished at the end...I didn't think Paladine had much more divinity to lose! Zivilyn seems like the best match. He was simultaneously concerned with maintaining the Balance of the world and yet not interfering. Plus his helping them find the Vale of Silence parallels nicely with the idea of Zhan. And having it be a neutral deity would balance out the pantheons for the next 500 years.

    HOWEVER, as noted earlier in the thread Thompson has apparently mentioned somewhere that the character of the old human priest was not meant to be a deity/aspect but a servitor creature. It just seems really odd that the elves would "recognize" him or his status (based on their reactions of respect towards him) and then in the end he's some random servitor creature the readership hasn't ever heard of. What?? I would guess most readers were expecting a deity to be revealed. After sitting with this for a while, I think I'd rather it left a mystery as opposed to being "definitely not a deity." I don't know...maybe I'm missing something.

    Regarding Sa'ida, she didn't strike me as a Goldmoon-like character, and I didn't see the set-up as leading to a Goldmoon-like scenario, but I really didn't think about it much. ...Yeah, I'm not sure what role she'll play in the struggles to reclaim Qualinesti. Good question!

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    There seems to be a little confusion between Faeterus and our unnamed friend with the bats. Faeterus is not a god. Our friend is; or at least, he's the mortal appearance of a god.

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    then now i'm REALLY confused. At the end, when that 'god' is banished for 500 years, what exactly does that mean? is one of the 21 no longer a god at all, or just denied a mortal aspect?

    Jeez, Paul, would it kill ya to have a little clarity once in a while? =)
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    Default Oh, I see...

    YES! Well, that brings the ending back into that realm of super-revelation type thing I thought it was. Great. I didn't realize there were two character discussions intertwined here. No wonder I was confuzzled.

    So, if I may address you directly here for sake of the discussion, Mr. Thompson, which deity might it be?

    Also, while we've got a few moments attention, was there any symbolism meant with the four animal-elf creatures who haunted Favaronas? I was thinking they were red, black, and white for the moons, and yellow for primal sorcery. Was that just coincidence? A red herring perhaps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Apol
    There seems to be a little confusion between Faeterus and our unnamed friend with the bats. Faeterus is not a god. Our friend is; or at least, he's the mortal appearance of a god.
    You mean *that* is what really happened to Takhisis. Holy wow! :rolleyes:

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    Quote Originally Posted by talinthas
    then now i'm REALLY confused. At the end, when that 'god' is banished for 500 years, what exactly does that mean? is one of the 21 no longer a god at all, or just denied a mortal aspect?

    Jeez, Paul, would it kill ya to have a little clarity once in a while? =)
    Me too!

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