Draconians in society

[SweetMeats]

The DLCS gives us two breeds of draconian as potential player races. In the AoM whats the liklihood that a draconian walking into town would not be attacked or forced to leave? What about if they were in the company of non-draconian "friends" of the more standard races?

As my storylines and campaigns progress into the 5th age, I am pondering whether Draconian would be a viable PC race for a typical DL game.

[Sephzero]

This is probably a good place where the appendix on Acceptance rules for DL really come in handy. Anyway, many of the draconians might have problems interact in areas that are rather isolate from other regions and therefore might not be as easily acceptance of old foes like draconian.

I figure most big cities like Palanthus would not outright attack them, but there might be individuals that won't be as accepting. I suspect that populace will still remain suspicious about draconians even in the company of other standard races and pending their fears might lash back against the entire group.

[Ravenmantle]

Even though it´s been 71 years since the War of the Lance ended, I still think draconians are generally feared in the vast majority of non-draconian communities. Mothers tell scary stories to their childen about scary scaly creatures killing and plundering, war veterans do the same whenever they get an opportunity. The new generations have grown up with these stories. Add to that the fact that draconians are still "usually evil" (quoting the DLCS) and you have your answer. But that´s just how I see it

Ravenmantle

[Willim]

But don't the draconians in Teyr have a busy trading partnership with several peoples? Wouldn't the fact that they have a real state make them more acceptable?

((having said this, I understand that they could be veiwed as a "rogue" state))

[Sephzero]

There are always people that are open to trading with other individuals regardless of the race of their customer. The Knights of Neraka still claim that Teyr is a vassal state to them, only in name though that still isn't good for the reputation. Also with the army of Teyr attacking the KoN during the end of WoS, might not win the draconians of that region any sympathy from the territories controled by KoN.

It is also should be noted that the draconians of Teyr are rather insular and that only a few of the new youngs have left off on adventuring. This means that most other regions might not be that up to date on the situation as there are still plenty of other draconians doing evil by helping the Dragon Overlords. So the situation still isn't that safe for draconians.

[OldschoolDL]

Why are Baaz and Kapaks the only races that can be PC's.

[Ravenmantle]

Teyr might be opening up its borders for trade and such but as I see it this trade will only happen in the immediate surroundings...the nation is very young and the population small. I simply don´t see Teyrian caravans traveling to the corners of Ansalon looking to trade. Furthermore communication isn´t a trademark owned by Ansalon, so many Ansalonians may not even know that a draconian nation exists...

Ravenmantle

[OldschoolDL]

Teyr might be opening up its borders for trade and such but as I see it this trade will only happen in the immediate surroundings...the nation is very young and the population small. I simply don´t see Teyrian caravans traveling to the corners of Ansalon looking to trade. Furthermore communication isn´t a trademark owned by Ansalon, so many Ansalonians may not even know that a draconian nation exists...

Ravenmantle

From what we understood at the end of the War of Souls, It was Kang's Draconians that Slaughtered the retreating Knights of Neraka. Perhaps Teyr could use this was a way to parlay with the Knights of Solamnia for possible Trade, support and perhaps even Recognition of Teyr as a Nation.

[Ravenmantle]

But would Teyr even be interested in dealing with the Knights of Solamnia? I say no. First of all the Knights of Solamnia is not as powerful as they used to be. This also implies that the Solamnics hardly have the power to recognize Teyr as a nation. Furthermore I honestly don´t think the draconians care about what some armor-clad snobs think of them. As I understand Kang and his mates they really just want to be left in peace.

Ravenmantle

[OldschoolDL]

Now if the Draconians are capable of being self sufficent able to produce their own food and goods and building material for their towns then i'd agree. But if there are necessities they need and are low about, they would either have to trade or raid for it. The Solamnics might not be as strong as they were, but they are in a better position to barter with, almost in equal positions. The Knights of Neraka's main force was destroyed leaving broken units still in control, two in the former elven lands and the last in Palanthus.

I wouldn't say they would be all that eager to get into a partnership with Solamnics, but their action before the Knights against the Nerakans could be a golden opportunity.

Or perhaps, The Solamnics and the KoN are the wrong knights. Perhaps Teyr would have better treatment and better odds with the Legion of Steel.